'I am not yet sure that there is anything to compliment.'
The young lady gave him a full view of her fine eyes for half a second, or perhaps it was only that they took a good look at him.
'Don't you see,' she said, 'that it is economy, and thrift, and all the household virtues? Not having the money to buy trimming, I am manufacturing it.'
'And the gown must be trimmed?'
'Unquestionably! You would not like it so well if it were not.'
'That is possible. The question remains' —
'What question?'
'Whether Life is not worth more than a bit of trimming.'
'Life!' echoed the young lady a little scornfully. 'An hour now and then is not Life.'
'It is the stuff of which Life is made.'
'What is Life good for?'
'That is precisely the weightiest question that can occupy the mind of a philosopher!'
'Are you a philosopher, Mr. Dallas!'
'In so far as a philosopher means a lover of knowledge. A philosopher who has attained unto knowledge, I am not; – that sort of knowledge.'
'You have been studying it?'
'I have been studying it for years.'
'What Life is good for?' said the young lady, with again a lift of her eyes which expressed a little disdain and a little impatience. But she saw Pitt's face with a thoughtful earnestness upon it; he was not watching her eyes, as he ought to have been. Her somewhat petulant words he answered simply.
'What question of more moment can there be? I am here, a human creature with such and such powers and capacities; I am here for so many years, not numerous; what is the best thing I can do with them and myself?'
'Get all the good out of them you can.'
'Certainly! but you observe that is no answer to my question of "how."'
'Good is pleasure, isn't it?'
'Is it?'
'I think so.'
'Make pleasure lasting, and perhaps I should agree with you. But how can you do that?'
'You cannot do it, that ever I heard. It is not in the nature of things.'
'Then what is the good of pleasure when it is over, and you have given your life for it?'
'Well, if pleasure won't do, take greatness, then.'
'What sort of greatness?' Pitt asked in the same tone. It was the tone of one who had gone over the ground.
'Any sort will do, I suppose,' said Miss Frere, with half a laugh. 'The thing is, I believe, to be great, no matter how. I never had that ambition myself; but that is the idea, isn't it?'
'What is it worth, supposing it gained?'
'People seem to think it is worth a good deal, by the efforts they make and the things they undergo for it.'
'Yes,' said Pitt thoughtfully; 'they pay a great price, and they have their reward. And, I say, what is it worth?'
'Why, Mr. Dallas,' said the young lady, throwing up her head, 'it is worth a great deal – all it costs. To be noble, to be distinguished, to be great and remembered in the world, – what is a worthy ambition, if that is not?'
'That is the general opinion; but what is it worth, when all is done?
Name any great man you think of as specially great' —
'Napoleon Buonaparte,' said the young lady immediately.
'Do not name him,' said Pitt. 'He wore a brilliant crown, but he got it out of the dirt of low passions and cold-hearted selfishness. His name will be remembered, but as a splendid example of wickedness. Name some other.'
'Name one yourself,' said Betty. 'I have succeeded so ill.'
'Name them all,' said Pitt. 'Take all the conquerors, from Rameses the Great down to our time; take all the statesmen, from Moses and onward. Take Apelles, at the head of a long list of wonderful painters; philosophers, from Socrates to Francis Bacon; discoverers and inventors, from the man who first made musical instruments, in the lifetime of Adam our forefather, to Watt and the steam engine. Take any or all of them; we are very glad they lived and worked, we are the better for remembering them; but I ask you, what are they the better for it?'
This appeal, which was evidently meant in deep earnest, moved the mind of the young lady with so great astonishment that she looked at Pitt as at a lusus naturae. But he was quite serious and simply matter of fact in his way of putting things. He looked at her, waiting for an answer, but got none.
'We speak of Alexander, and praise him to the skies, him of Macedon, I mean. What is that, do you think, to Alexander now?'
'If it is nothing to him, then what is the use of being great?' said
Miss Frere in her bewilderment.
'You are coming back to my question.'
There ensued a pause, during which the stitches of embroidery were taken slowly.
'What do you intend to do with your life, Mr. Dallas, since pleasure and fame are ruled out?' the young lady asked.
'You see, that decision waits on the previous question,' he answered.
'But it has got to be decided,' said Miss Frere, 'or you will be' —
'Nothing. Yes, I am aware of that.'
There was again a pause.